Icom 7300 RTTY FSK with MMTTY and N1MM Logger
I've used AFSK in the past and it's fine, but there's always the adjustment of the soundcard involved and if it gets knocked around the signal is lousy. I feel like I have to continuously monitor it.
I have FSK setup now using MMTTY which of course is used by N1MM Logger. N1MM is my favorite logging program for contests. I'm not a serious contester, more of a casual contester. Can't wait to try it in a contest.
Why FSK? Well there's the sound card issue with AFSK and I noticed after setting up AFSK on the 7300 that the signal on the spectrum scope is not aligned with the signal on MMTTY (N1MM Logger). In other words when I use the 7300's spectrum scope to tune to a signal and line it up, it's not in the band scope of MMTTY. It's completely outside the band scope and I have to go searching for it. Using FSK, when I tune to a signal using the Icom 7300 spectrum scope, it aligns perfectly in MMTTY's band scope.
There are other advantages with FSK, but I won't go into a lot of detail. AA5AU explains it pretty well. The article is here. I want to show how it's setup.
Icom 7300 RTTY FSK
I'm using two cables. One CI-V for rig control and the USB for digital modes including FSK and CW! (I am assuming that you have already downloaded the USB driver from Icom for the 7300 and have installed it. Then you can connect the USB cable.)
In the radio there are a few settings to be made. Go to Menu>Set>Connectors. I changed DATA MOD to USB because I've been operating PSK31 with the sound card. USB SEND is set to RTS. USB Keying (CW) is set to DTR and USB Keying (RTTY) is set to DTR. This works for me, so try it this way. I'll post a video clip in a week or so bringing this all together, ie., PSK31, CW and RTTY (FSK).
To see how N1MM is setup take a look at this post: ICOM 7300 N1MM LOGGER PLUS SETUP (different video than below)
MMTTY Icom 7300 RTTY FSK
The key here is the plugin. If you don't already have MMTTY installed go ahead and do that. Download it here. Then get the plugin here. (UPDATE 7/10/17: The EXTFSK v2.0e looks to be included with MMTTY, so there's no need for the extra download. Try MMTTY first, and if you don't see EXTFSK when setting up MMTTY, you can download EXTFSK from here) If needed, install the plugin following the directions on the page.
Open MMTTY go to Options>Setup MMTTY. Go to the TX tab. The Port for PTT & FSK should be set to EXTFSK64. That will bring up the plugin window. Select your COM Port for the USB cable. FSK output = DTR, and PTT output I have set to RTS. Next go to the Misc tab. Under Tx Port select COM-TxD(FSK). Click the USB Port button and select A:Normal. The next tab you go to is the Soundcard tab. Under Reception select the USB Audio CODEC for the Icom 7300. (This is installed before you connect the USB cable and it's the driver you downloaded from Icom.) Under Transmission nothing is selected, because we are not using the soundcard. We are sending on/off keying. You'll see that in the plugin window when you transmit.
There you have it, the Icom 7300 RTTY FSK. To see how N1MM is setup take a look at this post: ICOM 7300 N1MM LOGGER PLUS SETUP (different video than above)
Thanks for coming by. If you have any suggestions please comment below. How do you like your Icom 7300 and have you used it for RTTY? Best 73 and good DX. - Rich, K0PIR
Rich, you’re the man! Thanks for your great post!
Thanks Dave. I played with the radio today on 20 meters (SP DX RTTY Contest) using RTTY and it was great. Using CW or RTTY in a contest is a quick way to make new acquaintances and accumulate some DX contacts 🙂
I did not see where you used the CI-V cable ?
Hi Timothy. Thanks for pointing that out. It’s in the other clip. I’ll update his post to reflect that. Thanks again! 73- Rich
Take a look at this one: https://k0pir.us/icom-7300-n1mm-logger-plus-setup/
Rich-
I’ve been watching your channel and your hanging out on your blog a lot lately. I’ve had my 7300 for over a year and was running it with a Tigertronics SignalLink USB. I decided, after chatting with a fellow in my DX club, to use the internal sound card. Well that led me to your page and I’ve been working through the videos. Just got FSK working! Thanks for the great videos. 73 and good DX OM. -jim KE4GVO
Hi Jim,
Thank you! That’s great news and I really like FSK. It is fast and the filter I believe is better. Over the weekend I had fun in the RTTY contest. Thank you again, best 73 and good DX – Rich, K0PIR
Hi Rich, set up as per your video and blog, works 100% on my PC but on my Laptop a slight issue. When I click a macro the rig TX’s a carrier for approx 5 secs before sending the characters. Wonder if you have come across this ? maybe it’s peculiar to my laptop
Declan
ei6fr
Hi Declan,
That’s great and thank you for commenting on this post. Sometimes it’s just a matter of tweaking things a bit. 5 seconds is a long time. It may be the Silicon Labs driver for the USB cable. Did you try restarting windows and moving the USB cable to another USB port on the Laptop? Also, if you are comfortable with it, can you look in Device Manager and go to the Silicon Labs USB to UART Properties and try changing the flow control under Port Settings. Try Hardware for flow control. If that doesn’t work after a few tries, go back to the Port Settings tab and click on Advanced. Try altering the FIFO. Select a lower setting at first and try it a few times. As always, restart Windows occassionally.
You could also look at the settings in MMTTY. Look at 5:10 in the video and try a different setting there.
Hopefully, after some changes, it will just start to work. That’s usually how it works for me. LOL
Thanks again, best 73 and let me know what happens and how it’s working.
Rich, K0PIR
How to make it done on IC-7410?
Hi Robby,
Thanks for commenting and thanks for coming by my website. I’m sorry, but I don’t believe it will work on the 74010 like the 7300. I don’t think the 7410 can do FSK like the 7300. You would probably need to use AFSK with the 7410. Have you done that?
Thank you and best 73 – Rich, K0PIR
Hi Robby,
I setup RTTY with Log N1MM and I used one cable USB.
Alex
Hi Alex,
Nice to hear from you and that’s awesome. If you are getting FSK I’m guessing you are using VSPE. Can I ask you, did you pay for yours or are you using the free 32 bit version? If not VSPE, what are you using? Thanks for commenting because it helps me and others know what is working for Hams.
Check out my new video on N1MM and the Spectrum Display.
73,
Rich, K0PIR
Thanks,
Regarding your Topic “MMTTY Icom 7300 RTTY FSK”. Using your link,
“(UPDATE 7/10/17: The EXTFSK v2.0e looks to be included with MMTTY, so there’s no need for the extra download. ” I went to their site but could not find any link to EXTFSK v2.0e. Can you please direct me to this link?
Thanks for this and your great videos.
73
Denny, KR7SWA
Hi Denny,
Nice to hear from you and thank you for the question and thank you for the comment.
The last fresh install I did of MMTTY I did not need to download the plugin EXTFSK. It appeared to be included in MMTTY installation.
Install MMTTY and go to Option>Setup MMTTY>TX tab. In the dropdown scroll to the bottom and find EXTFSK64 (64bit system) to select it.
In the video: https://youtu.be/ZCkiuzAMuZI?t=4m25s
Just in case, here’s a link to EXTFSK, both the 2.0d and 2.0e versions are on this page. I am using the 2.0e version at the moment: http://www.qsl.net/ja7ude/extfsk/indexe.html
Please let me know how it goes.
Rich, K0PIR
Hi thanks for the great videos I have FSK working but trouble is when i shut the program down and turn my radio back on ,it goes into a transmission loop where i have to turn off the radio with the power button? any ideas I’ve followed everything but this is a real problem ..am i missing something?
thanks again for all the great videos.
Hi Chris,
Thanks for commenting here and nice to hear from you.
See if RTS is checked off or activated in N1MM or MMTTY somewhere. That will do it if your radio is setup like mine.
Otherwise in the radio go to Menu>Set>Connectors>USB SEND KEYING and turn off USB SEND. That may affect something else though.
See if that will fix it.
Best 73!
Rich, K0PIR
Hi Rich tried what you said but i think it was something to do with omni rig from another program.
One other thing i found was that i was unable to send CW as well, the setting that was the problem was in the radio set section after the cw drop down box i changed the setting to ptt instead of rts always off.
Now i have a fully working FSK /CW set up on the 7300 with just USB.
Thanks again for all the time and effort you put into the videos they really do help!
73
Chris 2E0XRD
That’s great, I’m glad you got it. FSK works really well in contests. Thanks for commenting and posting your results. Best 73!
Excellent article! I can transmit and receive, but it would seem that people have to go looking for me and that I am off freq when transmitting to them.
Any ideas?
Thanks – Jim K9IDX
Hi Jim,
Nice to hear from you and thank you for commenting. That’s a great question. I think this is what you are looking. N1MMM Logger+ MMTTY RTTY Support. Section 5.4.
“5.4. Why to Use “Auto Update TRX Offset w/Mark Freq.” If you are using FSK RTTY, most radios display the actual mark frequency on the tuning dial. A few even do this in AFSK RTTY. If your radio is like this, you don’t need to use this option. The DI window title bar may display an offset frequency (radio dial (+/-) audio), but if this option is turned off the offset frequency will not be logged and you can ignore it.”
You’ll find that option in N1MM DI-1 RTTY window (the window where RTTY is decoded). Click on “Setup” in the Menu.
See if that does it for you. Thanks for a great question.
Best 73,
Rich, K0PIR
Rich, I have been using Fldigi to operate my 7300 using PSK via USB control – I haven’t really wanted an buy an extra interface box (CT-17 per ICOM) to put between my computer and radio. BUT now I want to operate RTTY using MMTTY. Is there anyway to use both Fldigi for control and MMTTY for RTTY, or are they going to just sit there and fight over control of the COM port?
Hi Bob, it’s nice to hear from you and thank you for commenting here. Great question.
If you want to use N1MM and MMTTY with the 7300 it will work FB. If you want to use RTTY (FSK)like I was doing in my videos, you don’t need any extra equipment. I use a CI-V cable and the USB cable. If you don’t have a CI-V cable you can use Virtual Serial Port Emulator (VSPE) to split the port so you can send RTTY (FSK). e
If you have Fldigi open and connected to the radio via CAT when you open N1MM, you’ll get an error that the COM port is in use.
When I’m operating N1MM and MMTTY I don’t have Fldigi open anyway, so it’s not a big deal. Were you thinking of something else?
Rich, K0PIR
It looks like I am getting close to having things work. But I need to get the EXTFSK popup to pop up again. The few times it has done so were more like accidents. How do I make this happen on demand?
Bob,
I have that problem too sometimes. The window is probably just hiding. Use Alt-Tab to cycle through the open windows. You should see it.
Rich